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June 02, 2008

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Lori -

It is tragic that we've lost touch with reality. I also love nature as you do. I often visit the Tallulah falls in Northeast Georgia. It's peaceful to walk and listen to the running water sound, to watch birds flying. I'm just amazed at the fact that you pointed out about the destruction of forests in just 100 years.

Shilpan

Lori,

I just stumbled your post.

Shilpan

I'm just curious as to where you're seeing these huge families because they're a rarity where I'm from. I work at a grocery store currently, and can tell you this from experience: the families I run into are 1-3 people at most, with very few mothers who have 4-5 coming through and telling me that they have a hard time of it from other people. I think it's sad that having children is becoming something to be intolerant about, as if it has something to do with religion.

Older people aren't going to live forever. What happens when the baby boomers die?

"Overpopulation" strikes me as funny. How can we think that we're overpopulated when natural disasters like Myanmar are happening? Since 2000 there have been several natural disasters where thousands of people have been killed. Not to mention the genocide in Darfur, and the thousands of murders that happen in South America. And yet we think that we're overpopulating the Earth?

One thing I do agree on, though, is that we should take care of the Earth that we have, and stop trying to take so much. I don't know so much that we have limited resources... but I do think that there could be a lot more caretaking done than is being done now.

What do you think about home gardening, or else creating housing communities where a garden is part of the house that is sold? It would save on gas, it would help the environment, and it would save people money. They would just have to work together with their families to keep it up. But then, perhaps that would help us all learn how to work together. Who knows? It could work.

Shilpan,

Thanks for the remarks and the stumble!

M.,

I live in a suburb where most people are comfortable financially and where we also have a significant Catholic population. There are many families in my neighborhood who have several children. Hard for you to believe maybe...but it's true.

I apologize if my comment about biblical advice to multiply offends, but there are many people who do take the Bible quite literally without understanding that it is a document whose rules and advice made more sense in ancient times than they do today. The context of any document needs to be considered when weighing it's usefulness and applicability. And, it is a known fact that the Catholic church considers any form of birth control to be a sin against God. Our local Catholic families do tend to be larger than average.

As to overpopulation striking you as funny...perhaps you just need to read up on it a bit more. Most of us are unaware of the magnitude of population growth. The truth is that we have billions of people on this planet, so the thousands that are killed in wars or natural disasters hardly make a dent when they are counterbalanced with millions of births. You do understand that our current birth rates will lead to a doubling of our population every 61 years? Think about that for a little while...work out the math...does questioning the need to slow down population growth still strike you as funny? My guess is that, like most of us, you just haven't really taken the time to crunch the numbers.

Anyway, I understand that not everyone is going to agree with my opinions on things. I just find it hard to believe that people can shrug off and ignore startling facts as if the facts themselves were just opinions. Do a little research on-line; there is a lot of information on population that is quite interesting.

When I spoke of limited resources I was speaking of things like natural gas and oil. Sorry I didn't make that clear. The earth's stores of those are finite so they are, by definition, limited. Other resources, like clean water and agricultural land, are becoming more limited due to pollution, over-use and over-development.

Home gardening or housing communities that include gardens are a lovely idea. They would save money, and gas and bring people together and closer to nature which might be the biggest benefit of all. The more we interact with nature and the environment, the more likely we are to value and protect it.

I wanted to apologize. You submitted this post to my blog carnival, and I had forgotten to move it into the right folder in my mailbox, and so forgot to add it to this week's carnival. I will be adding it to next week's, and I apologize again!

It saddens me, too, that nature is disappearing before our eyes. I look at the parking lots and the roads and try to imagine what it looked like before humans...

I think one way to help decrease birth rates are to teach about safe sex instead of complete abstinence. Teenagers like to rebel; if you tell them not to, they're that much more likely to do it. If they want to have sex, it doesn't matter what we say, they are going to do it anyway. I know that if my mom had said to me, "You know I would prefer you don't have sex until your 30, but since you will do it if you want to, whether I say no or not, I want you to be safe about it," I probably would have waited longer than I did.

At the very least, being open about sex with teenagers in school and at home will allow them to learn the dangers of unprotected sex, making it more likely that they will protect themselves. It may even keep them from having sex early on because there's no "rebellious" aspect left to it. I think it would help decrease the teenage pregnancy rate and birth rates over all...

Oh, and thank you for submitting the post to All Things Eco :)

Stefanie,

Thanks so much for the input. I agree with you completely on the sex ed issue...I have a post that addresses that issue among others called "The Trouble With Sex in America." We have so many antiquated ideas that help to cause the very behaviors they are looking to prevent.

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